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terence tan
21st August 2003, 06:18 PM
hi, attached are the pics of my blue ct,
i intend to use it to breed.
a question here, is there red wash on the upper part of the anal fin
will it affect my next generation of fishes?
i intend to breed bi color cts
i'll be using either a red ctf blue ctf or an opaque ctf.
kindly post yur comments and advices~~~ thank u all`~[tx]

http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/forum/uploaded/terence tan/200382118164_2003818233335_1.jpg
http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/forum/uploaded/terence tan/2003821181614_studio fishes 012.jpg

Adrienne Kang
21st August 2003, 06:41 PM
I have a similar blue tone as urs with its ventral red too. However any blue with opaque will produce blue opaque. If you are getting the opaque from my friend, the parents of that batch is a marble CT and blue CT (I think). I am unable to imagine the different possible outcomes.

So I am also asking here is if Op (hybrid dominant gene) covers m (recessive marble gene)?

Adrienne Kang
21st August 2003, 06:41 PM
I have a similar blue tone as urs with its ventral red too. However any blue with opaque will produce blue opaque. If you are getting the opaque from my friend, the parents of that batch is a marble CT and blue CT (I think). I am unable to imagine the different possible outcomes.

So I am also asking here is if Op (hybrid dominant gene) covers m (recessive marble gene)?

terence tan
21st August 2003, 07:57 PM
dats way out of my league~ im jus a beginner, maybe myron or phil or the others might know better?
but its kinda interesting so i think i can say i might get marbles or blue opaque but never get any solid opaque or solid blue rite?

terence tan
21st August 2003, 07:57 PM
dats way out of my league~ im jus a beginner, maybe myron or phil or the others might know better?
but its kinda interesting so i think i can say i might get marbles or blue opaque but never get any solid opaque or solid blue rite?

Lyon Goh
21st August 2003, 08:01 PM
as long as a parent has red wash, there'll be chances that fries will have red wash

Lyon Goh
21st August 2003, 08:01 PM
as long as a parent has red wash, there'll be chances that fries will have red wash

Ong Ginyew
21st August 2003, 11:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by Lyon Goh

as long as a parent has red wash, there'll be chances that fries will have red wash


true....:D[ber]

Ong Ginyew
21st August 2003, 11:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by Lyon Goh

as long as a parent has red wash, there'll be chances that fries will have red wash


true....:D[ber]

terence tan
22nd August 2003, 12:15 AM
omg so my fish realli has red wash huh?

terence tan
22nd August 2003, 12:15 AM
omg so my fish realli has red wash huh?

Adrienne Kang
22nd August 2003, 12:38 AM
yup one of my f1 has is fully dark turquoise green BUT with its tip of caudal tail red.
Reason: parents has red gene lor! :P Blue and Red are both dominant so resulting in incomplete dominance here n there, therefore messy blue and red in offsprings like mine :P

Adrienne Kang
22nd August 2003, 12:38 AM
yup one of my f1 has is fully dark turquoise green BUT with its tip of caudal tail red.
Reason: parents has red gene lor! :P Blue and Red are both dominant so resulting in incomplete dominance here n there, therefore messy blue and red in offsprings like mine :P

terence tan
22nd August 2003, 01:39 AM
oic, but ur fishes color looks alrite to me, for now i wanna concentrate on gettin the desired finnage.. bi color bettas are more interesting dont u think? if the colors are spread nicely im sure bi colors will b as nice if not nicer than solids. maybe its my habit that i like to go against conventions, :p experts pls dun take offence~~ (^_^)/~~

terence tan
22nd August 2003, 01:39 AM
oic, but ur fishes color looks alrite to me, for now i wanna concentrate on gettin the desired finnage.. bi color bettas are more interesting dont u think? if the colors are spread nicely im sure bi colors will b as nice if not nicer than solids. maybe its my habit that i like to go against conventions, :p experts pls dun take offence~~ (^_^)/~~

Myron Tay
28th November 2003, 12:47 PM
What exactly is red wash?

Chris Yew
28th November 2003, 04:19 PM
Hi Terence,
You mentioned that you wish to create a bicolor fish using your blue male ct.

So what bicolor are you looking into ? Blue + ?? color

Can't tell whether your blue ct carries red wash from the photo as it's not clear. But if you see red color on your blue ct, then simply don't use it for breeding. Reason is that a blue fish should be all blue without red!

If you are going to create blue butterfly, juz use another blue butterfly female ct to cross to your blue male (not one with red wash). It may not give you 100% blue butterfly in your F1. But from your F1, you can selective breed them.

Myron Tay
13th December 2003, 09:49 AM
quote:Originally posted by Myron Tay

What exactly is red wash?


To answer this question, please look at the following article by Dr Gene Lucas:

http://www.famamagazine.com/e/env/0001vUMt7Ze5NkYqgg7r211/issues/2002/jul2002/f-cp-jul-072002-1.html?link=/framepagesecure.html&item=jul2002:f-cl-bts-072002-1

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Silas Khor
13th December 2003, 12:22 PM
Interested to see where this goes.... I have a blue CT too, matching Terence's description, red wash at the caudal fin(very slight) and red in the ventrals.... His mate is a purple/red crowntail, but not sure I want to breed them as I want the blue solid line.

Lyon Goh
13th December 2003, 01:02 PM
But sometimes, the red wash is so much that it becomes a pattern. That is something we should look out for if you are looking towards a Bi-color spawn

terence tan
13th December 2003, 03:39 PM
yah as i noticed some realli nice triband fishes also have very nice red in the color pattern

Alex Lim
30th December 2003, 12:03 AM
It should also be pointed out that presence of red can serve to enhance the overall presentation of the fish (as in this instance) but may also degrade it entirely. it lies in what the colour combinations may be. otherwise, it may turn out "yuck"

Alex Lim
30th December 2003, 12:03 AM
It should also be pointed out that presence of red can serve to enhance the overall presentation of the fish (as in this instance) but may also degrade it entirely. it lies in what the colour combinations may be. otherwise, it may turn out "yuck"