Breeding Orange & Orange/Black Bettas

[Foo Hong]

He...in case you re wondering, this is the only colour currently which I am not breeding <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>. Some one got to convince me that this is a nice colour.

So who has them and what are your results so far? I suppose they all come from Mr. Lim Heng Co, Gilbert / USA.

[Dr Hsu]

Foo Hong,

One thing I can say is that they grow damn slow! My first spawn disappeared in an outside pond and we all wondered why.....Found out the answer with the second spawn - this spawn was at least a week older than an opaque spawn and by the second week, the opaques were larger! Put them together and the opaques still outstrip the oranges in growth rate....and we all know how slowly whites grow!!!

Never got a spawn from my imported oranges, only that from SY/Ing Ming, which I think is a better (lighter) color anyway. Just started jarring a few and am seeing darker, butterfly like pattern, cambodian like, yellowish colored fish (?),and some more solid color. Some nice DTs, haven't picked out any nice STs yet although a few candidates in the grow out tank still.


Regards,

Li Chieh

"Good judgement is based on experience, and much of that is based on prior bad judgement!"
"The more I know, the more I know that there is more that I don't know!"

[Foo Hong]

Errr, you can drop a few at my place and let them take my 'special menu'. see if they will explode in growth rate...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

But its true...some strains grow slower. For eg, my yellows grow faster than the irids, who grow faster than the opaques, who grows...........who grows......zzzzz

[Samuel Phan]

Regarding Orange/Black ... it takes acquired taste to appreciate them ... to many ... they are just multis.

I have got a few Orange/Black females which I have yet to decide what to breed with ... any suggestions?

How about with marbles?

Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)

[Samuel Phan]

Was told that Orange X Orange/Black will give some of each.
This is assuming that they come from the same line which is Gilbert's line....

Anyone can confirm on that?

Also ... Dr Hse ... you mentioned that you Orange spawn threw out an assortment of colours ... does that implies that the Orange line have yet to breed through?

quote:
Regarding Orange/Black ... it takes acquired taste to appreciate them ... to many ... they are just multis.

I have got a few Orange/Black females which I have yet to decide what to breed with ... any suggestions?

How about with marbles?

Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)

[Dr Hsu]

Except for the yellow fish, they are all orange - just varying shades of orange, and varying coverage of color, but distinctively orange.

Regards,

Li Chieh

"Good judgement is based on experience, and much of that is based on prior bad judgement!"
"The more I know, the more I know that there is more that I don't know!"

[Samuel Phan]

Thanks ...

[Myron Tay]

quote:Originally posted by Phil Ngo

Hi Guys,
I have noted that my oranges, tend to get more orangy as they reach 4-5 months. I have here 2 shots of my own DT oranges. The first is a Picture of a 3 mths old fry and the later a 4.5 mths old DT. Are those of you breeding oranges having the same experience ?

http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/forum/uploaded/phil ngo/2003423131225_P4200148.jpg

http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/forum/uploaded/phil ngo/2003423131258_P4210161.jpg
quote:Originally posted by Samuel Phan

I have the similar experienc ewith Orange Blacks.
The orange tone darkens as they age.
quote:Originally posted by Phil Ngo

Hi Sam,
I hope the Orange blacks are stronger than the oranges. Pure Oranges are not an easy color to breed. I have noticed that their fries tend to be weaker than others and they die easily. Is this your shared experience as well? Also after breeding Gilbert's oranges for some 4 generations now, I do get some yellow as well.
quote:Originally posted by Samuel Phan

Hi Phil,

Dun have much experience with the colour ... did only one spawn.
And the observation on tone change was observed on the parent fish.

Maran will be able to provide more in-sight into the findings.

You seems to be right about the off-springs as well ... my spawn of orange blacks
threw out some pure oranges ... but they seems weak and most did not grow up well.

Have stopped the line ...

[derrick kuah]

My orange from my own orange plakat line.
http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/photoalbum/derrick%20kuah/DSC08726.JPG
pics doesn,t show the right colour(will post with better pics soon)
http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/photoalbum/derrick%20kuah/DSC08730.JPG
The brother from the same spawn.Got only orange and yellow.(just like my plakat orange line).
http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/photoalbum/derrick%20kuah/DSC05229.JPG
I bred them from this(This is the six generation of my plakat line)
http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/photoalbum/derrick%20kuah/DSC05295.JPG
This is a younger fish.Just like the plakat , the colour will darken as it gets older.