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Foo Hong
19th July 2002, 11:07 AM
Yet another fry food. next pls.
Samuel Phan
19th July 2002, 02:42 PM
Any idea where to find it? and how they can be harvested?
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Yet another fry food. next pls.
Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)
Chris Yew
19th July 2002, 02:51 PM
Heard of it many times, but have never seen it or use it before. Sounds like something we add to our shark fin soup, lol!
Chris Yew
Chris Yew
19th July 2002, 02:58 PM
OK, jokes aside and here's the write up on Vinegar Eeels;
http://www.livefoodcultures.com/vinegareels.html
Vinegar eels (Turbatrix aceti) are living nematodes, which feed on bacteria and fungi found in the sediments of nonpasteurized vinegar. When viewed alive, vinegar eels are seen to be in constant motion, using vigorous dorsolateral undulations to propel themselves through the medium.
Chris Yew
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Heard of it many times, but have never seen it or use it before. Sounds like something we add to our shark fin soup, lol!
Chris Yew
Foo Hong
22nd July 2002, 03:11 PM
MMMmmm,,,, I got a starter culture from Hsu 6 months ago, now I got 4 jars of VE. You want a culture or want to know how I culture them, harvest them, etc......it will only cost each of you a hundred bucks <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
No its free to BCS members......but just be sure to put it away from your living hall before your family members get annoyed with the smell of cider vinegar <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>
They look like microworms. Those who want some ..... get it from me at the next BCS gathering.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Myron Tay
22nd July 2002, 04:51 PM
Thanks for the offer. Maybe I would take a whiff first before deciding. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Anyhow, what do you have to do to the worms before you feed them to the fish?
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MMMmmm,,,, I got a starter culture from Hsu 6 months ago, now I got 4 jars of VE. You want a culture or want to know how I culture them, harvest them, etc......it will only cost each of you a hundred bucks <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
No its free to BCS members......but just be sure to put it away from your living hall before your family members get annoyed with the smell of cider vinegar <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>
They look like microworms. Those who want some ..... get it from me at the next BCS gathering.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Foo Hong
22nd July 2002, 05:24 PM
There are various ways to do it and Hsu applies a method described by the rainbowfish website. For me I use filter paper. The idea is to rid the vinegar, which is mildly acidic.
Dr Hsu
25th July 2002, 12:10 PM
Foo Hong,
I have a better idea - we will sell the cultures at BCS meetings etc. Suggest something like $2-5 per culture with instruction sheet - all proceeds to BCS. What do you think?
Regards,
Li Chieh
"Good judgement is based on experience, and much of that is based on prior bad judgement!"
"The more I know, the more I know that there is more that I don't know!"
Foo Hong
25th July 2002, 01:25 PM
Good idea, exclsuive to BCS members. can sell the cider as well, and the bottle.....all $$ to BCS.
Non members...well 10 bucks lah...ha!
Chris Yew
29th July 2002, 09:04 PM
Here's how;
http://cbs.bettas.org/eels.htm
Chris Yew
quote:
Thanks for the offer. Maybe I would take a whiff first before deciding. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Anyhow, what do you have to do to the worms before you feed them to the fish?
quote:
MMMmmm,,,, I got a starter culture from Hsu 6 months ago, now I got 4 jars of VE. You want a culture or want to know how I culture them, harvest them, etc......it will only cost each of you a hundred bucks <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
No its free to BCS members......but just be sure to put it away from your living hall before your family members get annoyed with the smell of cider vinegar <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>
They look like microworms. Those who want some ..... get it from me at the next BCS gathering.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Kelvin Tan
24th March 2003, 06:19 PM
was it sold at last road show? wanted to buy, but forgotten and didnt notice any. good to use?
Tan Xiao YI
25th March 2003, 12:02 AM
if i m not wrong the road show in aug sold it i stil have the instrction sheet with me...its in a liquid like beer colour..sell it to people ??hey don't so bad lah haha never mind its a good idea aft all its qute cheap anyway...i heard a way is u place apple juice n a few slice of apple n put in a long narrow neck bottle...how to harvest it..i left it to the $_$ people to teach :D
[:P]
Dr Hsu
25th March 2003, 12:06 AM
We didn't sell any at the last road show - not that much interest in the first, and I was too busy to get subcultures organized. I still think it's a nice food but the numbers is not as large as MW, at least not with my half-hearted culturing efforts:D.
Nowadays I just depend on natural infusoria to get fry large enough to take daphnia.....survival of the largest!
Myron Tay
7th February 2005, 06:17 PM
Just read a short introduction to vinegar eels on the Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazine that gave the insight that vinegars eels tend be more suitable for surface feeders since they tend to be suspended in water. Microworms are more suited to bottom feeders since they tend to sink to the bottom of the tank.
Also, vinegar eels tend to live longer in water than microworms.
sylwester
7th February 2005, 10:32 PM
True.. I feed VE as second food on 2. day as free swimmers. It's a very good food to combine with MW so they have variation from day 5.
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