Breeding Yellows

[Foo Hong]

Yellows are my latest craze.

[Dr Hsu]

How is the spawn with the awesome Ah San yellow coming along??

I also wu liao so just spawned a yellow male I picked up from Ah San at the farm visit (from his red spawn) to a yellow female from HK that a friend gave me....now a few days old. Don't know why I did it 'cause the female didn't have good finnage/splits..... Think it's because I needed to know that I can still spawn fish after many recent failures <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Regards,

Li Chieh
"Good judgement is based on experience, and much of that is based on prior bad judgement!"

Edited by - dr hsu on 30 Apr 2002 21:08:22

[Foo Hong]

Ah San s yellow is my darling fish. She is the only female that lives in a Nisso tank.:) She is really commando trained, old but strong and nice colour, not clear cambodian yellow type but opaque yellow ...175 caudal....yippy!

She was paired with the winning STM yellow in the competition, courtesy of Sam Awyong. i dont expect high no. of good fishes tho bcos the male has an inproportionate body/fin. also, tail is too long and saggy. over 1 month now..throwing cambodian reds and yellows.

The same yellow female is spawned to an extended red. Badly bitten till she had velvet from stress. still not fully recovered but when she do, her next boyfriend will be a light yellow STM/DT from Curtis Low, whcih is a little smaller.....Hopefully she pulls thru and makes my dream come true.

I am sure she will be become a fairy after life!

[Foo Hong]

well just an update on my 2nd yellow spawn. 2 yellows from diff lines gave me this rediculous 50% camb red/50% yellow spawn.

As hsu has said before, there may very well be a Y1 and Y2 gene. otherwise, where in the world does teh camb red come from. if one says its yellow/cam red geno, then it also doesnt make sense cos there are far too many cam reds here. time to throw away mindley s law <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_sleepy.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

[Jung]

FH,

Which 2 lines are the yellows from?

[Foo Hong]

Daddy is the one entered by Sam Awyong at the BCS competition. Mummy is from Discus Breeding Farm.

As expected many did nt turn out good in form due to the male. But such is the case with outcrosses. The next generation hope to see some throwbacks towards the mummy 's side, which is a nice 170 delta in deep yellow.

BTW, I see that you are a junior member according to the forum records. What is your name.

[Jung]

FH,

My name's Jung Keen. My 5 yr old nephew calls me "Uncle Junkin".

[Samuel Phan]

Hi Foo Hong,

Actually most pple will start off as "Starting Member" unless they belongs to the committee ... it is only through their number of forum postings that they are awarded titles like "Junior Member", "Senior Member", "Shi Fu" and such.

Btw ... welcome ... "Uncle Junkin" ... it would be nice to have more pple like you in this forum. Welcome to the family.

With Best Regards,
Samuel Phan

quote:
Daddy is the one entered by Sam Awyong at the BCS competition. Mummy is from Discus Breeding Farm.

As expected many did nt turn out good in form due to the male. But such is the case with outcrosses. The next generation hope to see some throwbacks towards the mummy 's side, which is a nice 170 delta in deep yellow.

BTW, I see that you are a junior member according to the forum records. What is your name.




Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)

[Foo Hong]

I see. Woow....lets all get promoted to the highest level on this forum. I am beginning to luv this forum, matured & constructive discussions, no beakering, and most importantly betta-topics.
<img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shy.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>:)<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_kisses.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shy.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>:)<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_kisses.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

[Samuel Phan]

Yep ... lets make it a no nonsense forum with the sole aim of info sharing and building bond among the betta lovers.

With Best Regards,
Samuel Phan

quote:
I see. Woow....lets all get promoted to the highest level on this forum. I am beginning to luv this forum, matured & constructive discussions, no beakering, and most importantly betta-topics.
<img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shy.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>:)<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_kisses.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shy.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>:)<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_kisses.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>




Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)

[Foo Hong]

Who else is breeding yellows these days, besides me and Straits Aquarium. The gene pool is too narrow !<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

[Dr Hsu]

Foo Hong,

Is your darling Ah San yellow female still around??

Have a male yellow (one of the yellow offspring from his last red batch) that has the same kind of nice yellow. He's quite big but can't say too much about his fins as he was kept outside whilst growing up and thus did not develop well (great color so maybe outdoor environment with lots of natural algae is good for yellows??)

Was thinking that a cross between the two might give good colored fish with good finnage?


Regards,

Li Chieh
"Good judgement is based on experience, and much of that is based on prior bad judgement!"

[Foo Hong]

Ai Ya...you shld have said earlier. I used her so many times until she is now a 'betta fairy'...now

She was breed to the following before:
1. Curtis Low's male - about 300 to 400 fries......finnage sucks. None usablefor F2
2. Sam Awyong's winning yellow[peter's line]......50/50 cam red/yellow. Only about 5 fishes considerable.
3. Straits red - very small spawn, less than 30. looks like 60 cam red/yellow and 40% ext red. still small cant see well.

Also tried her to my Royal Blue to get some multis &gt; big mistake. she lietrally became retarded after the battering.

I do have a Ah san red female we can consider. She was bred from[according to Roy] red x pineapple so there is some yellow genes in it. Nice branching and should throw back a few yellows.

[Foo Hong]

Yellow spawn #2 in my history turn out equally dissapointing. Good colour, great mama, but boyz n gals look like anything but close to their near HM mama <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

Just F2 one pair today.....Cant be just lost in one generation. Gotta have a Hm yellow. Anyone else breeding yellows?

[Samuel Phan]

Btw ... saw some yellow females at Tiong Bahru market. Good size and very healthy ... dunno who is the home breeder that actually released those yellow females.

It was selling at 80cents each.

I took a look at the finnage and find them acceptable even if they were to cost $10 each.

Will go down later to take a closer look. Maybe can find good buy from the batch.

Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)

[Dr Hsu]

Sam,

I wouldn't touch them with a 10 ft pole! Females lie! They always look great - nice and clean, decent delta tails, some even with good splits - but the may not pass on their traits. Worse still, you don't know the background of the fish.

I think for females it is even more important to know the background or you will often be taking one step back (minimum) in your breeding program.

Of course, if you have nothing else better to do with your time and money......:)

Regards,

Li Chieh
"Good judgement is based on experience, and much of that is based on prior bad judgement!"
"The more I know, the more I know that there is more that I don't know!"

[Samuel Phan]

Point taken.
Actually bought 2 pieces ... will only use them as test spawns if there is any.

Reason because my most recent 2 spawns is going to keep me very busy again. :)

quote:
Sam,

I wouldn't touch them with a 10 ft pole! Females lie! They always look great - nice and clean, decent delta tails, some even with good splits - but the may not pass on their traits. Worse still, you don't know the background of the fish.

I think for females it is even more important to know the background or you will often be taking one step back (minimum) in your breeding program.

Of course, if you have nothing else better to do with your time and money......:)

Regards,

Li Chieh
"Good judgement is based on experience, and much of that is based on prior bad judgement!"
"The more I know, the more I know that there is more that I don't know!"


Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)

[Foo Hong]

Arrrr you bot?.....check carefully before you breed. Opps I meant breed the bettas not yourself. Once they turn from padi grain to cooked porridge its too late.

BTW, sometimes young plakat females are difficult to tell. May teh force be with you[r bettas].

[Samuel Phan]

Hahaha ... yes I bought ... :)
Anyway ... wun breed them lah ...

Have too many spawns in hand to try and test spawns.

But my MG spawn ... I think eggs all eaten by the male. <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
quote:
Arrrr you bot?.....check carefully before you breed. Opps I meant breed the bettas not yourself. Once they turn from padi grain to cooked porridge its too late.

BTW, sometimes young plakat females are difficult to tell. May teh force be with you[r bettas].




Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)

[Foo Hong]

Progress of yellow line . F1....at least one male turn out almost 170 delta with a reasonable proportion overall. None of the others were anything near in terms of quality. Well at least I got 1 fella to work with from here. Never knew yellows were so difficult to work with. Will try to fix the strain. Hes the one you guys saw at the AGM...cool<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>?

[Chris Yew]

Yeh, as shown on the photos! Is it with tertiary splits, or more? Couldn't see properly.

Chris Yew


quote:
Progress of yellow line . F1....at least one male turn out almost 170 delta with a reasonable proportion overall. None of the others were anything near in terms of quality. Well at least I got 1 fella to work with from here. Never knew yellows were so difficult to work with. Will try to fix the strain. Hes the one you guys saw at the AGM...cool<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>?

[Foo Hong]

Hes got 1-to-8 ray branching in some sets of rays, but not every ray.

Also, there is only one female worth using.....shes got 1-to-4 rays now.......

I hope their colour with darken to the Ah San's type. I ve already bought life insurance for this couple!

[Chris Yew]

So it's juz like a crowntail with some DDR and DR on the same caudal!

Chris Yew

[jonpoh]

Love the yellow you bought to the AGM.. what cross is that from? That yellow looks fantastic...

Infact look more impressive than your red... ( in terms of finnage )

regards
Jonathan poh

quote:
Yellow spawn #2 in my history turn out equally dissapointing. Good colour, great mama, but boyz n gals look like anything but close to their near HM mama <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

Just F2 one pair today.....Cant be just lost in one generation. Gotta have a Hm yellow. Anyone else breeding yellows?





jonathan

[Foo Hong]

Father yellow is the 1st plavce winner lor![courtesy of sam awyeong]
Mother yellow is from Ah San[ out of red line ]

You shld have seen the rest of the spawn...pouuuccrrrr!!

The red line is one of 3 lines which I am trying to work from. just F1 so nothing great but this line has a better chance of getting a neat HM than the rest.

[jonpoh]

No wonder.. so fantastic.... !!!
Hayiah... How come it is not my fish...?


hahaha..

regards
Jonathan Poh


quote:
Father yellow is the 1st plavce winner lor![courtesy of sam awyeong]
Mother yellow is from Ah San[ out of red line ]

You shld have seen the rest of the spawn...pouuuccrrrr!!

The red line is one of 3 lines which I am trying to work from. just F1 so nothing great but this line has a better chance of getting a neat HM than the rest.





jonathan

[Foo Hong]

Hmmm, will be bringing in more yellows to work into my current line which is less than 9 mths old.

This Thai seller is asking for the sky, or asking me to swap opaques with him.....heads or tails?

[Dr Hsu]

If it's the guy on aquabid, then I think it would be worth it to get the line - looks pretty decent, at least for a young fish. Swapping some opaques may be the way to go as he is asking for the sky!

Don't want to pay $100 so I'll wait for you to get them and then I'll get a F1 from you <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Regards,

Li Chieh

"Good judgement is based on experience, and much of that is based on prior bad judgement!"
"The more I know, the more I know that there is more that I don't know!"

[Foo Hong]

Thats what I thot. give him a grade B fish bcos he dont carry Pink IC...hehehe

This bloke wanted some reds from me as well. Said his red n white lines crashed due to inbreeding. Was cautioned by Atison before that I need to exercise some caution!

BTW Hsu, I really dont know what to do with good old copper imbellis. U can have it back hes fatter/bigger now.

I will be breeding up to 10 new spawns this n next week before I go oversea in Sept. So got no more space for brother copper.

[Chris Yew]

We have been talking on this topic Breeding Yellows but how many ways can Yellow be derived from besides Yellow x Yellow?


Chris Yew

[Foo Hong]

Yellow is in the deepest layer of colours for bettas. To what I know, its either
yellow x yellow
or red[yellow geno] x yellow

some cam reds could appear here n there along with the yellows, unless yr yellows are pure.

[Dr Hsu]

I got a few yellows out of an orange spawn, but not the desirable yellow color.

Chris got yellow out of MG (yellow chiffon) which has really nice color (if you ignore the variegation of the fins) - so how, Chris, can you line breed and isolate out the yellow? would be real nice!

Foo Hong - can return to me. Maybe later can auction off later if I don't need him.

Regards,

Li Chieh

"Good judgement is based on experience, and much of that is based on prior bad judgement!"
"The more I know, the more I know that there is more that I don't know!"

[Chris Yew]

Out of the whole MG spawn, onli these 2 DTM Yellow Chiffon are the best. The rest are not true yellow (exclude the variegation of fins). I've tried to spawn these 2 DTM with Peter yellow STF (now left back with 1 STF) numerous times but failed. Both male being DT have difficulty in wrapping up the female. They seems to have very 'stiff backbone' and cannot bend much, lol!

Now I'm doing a lot of reading up and doing a 'thesis' on how to manually assist in spawning your bettas! Should be able to try it out next week.

quote:
I got a few yellows out of an orange spawn, but not the desirable yellow color.

Chris got yellow out of MG (yellow chiffon) which has really nice color (if you ignore the variegation of the fins) - so how, Chris, can you line breed and isolate out the yellow? would be real nice!

Foo Hong - can return to me. Maybe later can auction off later if I don't need him.

Regards,

Li Chieh

"Good judgement is based on experience, and much of that is based on prior bad judgement!"
"The more I know, the more I know that there is more that I don't know!"


Chris Yew

[Dr Hsu]

Yes, those DTs can be difficult to spawn due to the short body, spinal defects. May be easier to do so when they are younger?

Suggest you can try with a much smaller and young female, ideally not too fat from eggs or have pot belly.

May have some small size yellow oranges if you want to try them.

Regards,

Li Chieh

"Good judgement is based on experience, and much of that is based on prior bad judgement!"
"The more I know, the more I know that there is more that I don't know!"

[Chris Yew]

Great if it's not too much to ask for a ready to spawn female from you this coming meeting? If still no result, I will really have to go ahead with the manually assisted spawning - this time out of water method.

Chris Yew

[Foo Hong]

Stupidest mistake of my life <img src=icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle>!

Bought a yellow HM betta from a Thai[breeder A] but thought he was breeder B instead <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>. Had agreed with B that he ll sell me female as well if I buy male of his. Now A does not have females for me <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle> .

Now must look for other ways ...... cambodian female x Yellow male <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> .

Say, for all my dealings in red crosses, I ve never paid any attention to percentage of cam Reds and Yellows out of extred x extred crosses. Errr, according to the stupid Mr Mendley, if I cross

Yellow x CamRed(from a Ext Red x yellow )....I should technically get 50/50 cam red/yellow yeah? Who studied Genetic Engineering in School?

[Foo Hong]

Stupidest mistake of my life <img src=icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle>!

Bought a yellow HM betta from a Thai[breeder A] but thought he was breeder B instead <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>. Had agreed with B that he ll sell me female as well if I buy male of his. Now A does not have females for me <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle> .

Now must look for other ways ...... cambodian female x Yellow male <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> .

Say, for all my dealings in red crosses, I ve never paid any attention to percentage of cam Reds and Yellows out of extred x extred crosses. Errr, according to the stupid Mr Mendley, if I cross

Yellow x CamRed(from a Ext Red x yellow )....I should technically get 50/50 cam red/yellow yeah? Who studied Genetic Engineering in School?

[Foo Hong]

Ha! update....

Just came back from my dad's place after dinner and the F2 yellows is throwing a few nice males and females with good ray branching n form.....this is not the Thai line but my own creation.....their daddy is the one brought to the AGM and pictured on our gallery.

Finally....."sky got eyes on me"!

[Foo Hong]

Ha! update....

Just came back from my dad's place after dinner and the F2 yellows is throwing a few nice males and females with good ray branching n form.....this is not the Thai line but my own creation.....their daddy is the one brought to the AGM and pictured on our gallery.

Finally....."sky got eyes on me"!

[Foo Hong]

to add to my already wide varieties, I am embarking on breeding yellow butterflies...yep like Chris' chiffons!.....

yet another strain...he!

[Foo Hong]

to add to my already wide varieties, I am embarking on breeding yellow butterflies...yep like Chris' chiffons!.....

yet another strain...he!

[kennho]

Sudden yellow fever among a few of us.

I still not satisfy with the yellow I got. Body still pale in comparison to the fins and worst, i observe some browning at the edge. Is there any yellow coloration that is similar to the chiffons or any where near to Peter's old line ? Really can't find at all.

[Sebas]

i got the yellow fever too!

[Foo Hong]

Sam got a lot of yellow now...hes having yellow fever...seao liao!

[kennho]

ya lor, must find a good auspicious day to drop by to celebrate 1 month old birthday.

Sam waiting for you invitation.

[Jimmy Wu]

Wow... seems like so many ppl into yellows~...

The only yellow fish that i have currently is from Samuel...:D

Think u noe wat fish la hor.... will be spawning him once i get hold of a good female....[^]

[Chris Yew]

Hi Jimmy,

Finally you got in, welcome here.

Yellow from Samuel - A Plakat?

There should be some interesting Yellows from Edward Chiang in the coming exhibition. Take a closer look.

quote:Originally posted by Jimmy Wu

Wow... seems like so many ppl into yellows~...

The only yellow fish that i have currently is from Samuel...:D

Think u noe wat fish la hor.... will be spawning him once i get hold of a good female....[^]

[Jimmy Wu]

Hi CHris,

yup got in liao....thx for yr help....[gd]. Will join here as often as i can....;)

regards
Jimmy

quote:Originally posted by Chris Yew

Hi Jimmy,

Finally you got in, welcome here.

Yellow from Samuel - A Plakat?

There should be some interesting Yellows from Edward Chiang in the coming exhibition. Take a closer look.

quote:Originally posted by Jimmy Wu

Wow... seems like so many ppl into yellows~...

The only yellow fish that i have currently is from Samuel...:D

Think u noe wat fish la hor.... will be spawning him once i get hold of a good female....[^]

[Samuel Phan]

My home is now the Banana Republic ... hahaha.
But they spawns are still very young with lotsa cambodians due to crossing yellow from different lines.

Will keep you guys posted when I have any good results.

quote:Originally posted by Foo Hong

Sam got a lot of yellow now...hes having yellow fever...seao liao!

[Samuel Phan]

My home is now the Banana Republic ... hahaha.
But they spawns are still very young with lotsa cambodians due to crossing yellow from different lines.

Will keep you guys posted when I have any good results.

quote:Originally posted by Foo Hong

Sam got a lot of yellow now...hes having yellow fever...seao liao!

[Sebas]

Sam, whats the latest update of the heavenly pair?

anyway, my spawn has thrown alot of cambodians.

[Sebas]

Sam, whats the latest update of the heavenly pair?

anyway, my spawn has thrown alot of cambodians.

[Jimmy Wu]

toilet liao~?[ek2][ek2]

quote:Originally posted by Sebas

my spawn has thrown alot of cambodians.

[Jimmy Wu]

toilet liao~?[ek2][ek2]

quote:Originally posted by Sebas

my spawn has thrown alot of cambodians.

[Sebas]

no lah, havent even started selection yet.

[Sebas]

no lah, havent even started selection yet.

[Jimmy Wu]

oh i see....[|)]... alot of cambodians and no gd yellows?[33]

quote:Originally posted by Sebas

no lah, havent even started selection yet.

[Jimmy Wu]

oh i see....[|)]... alot of cambodians and no gd yellows?[33]

quote:Originally posted by Sebas

no lah, havent even started selection yet.

[Sebas]

i dont even know if got yellows anot. heh, but finnage shd be quite okay

[Sebas]

i dont even know if got yellows anot. heh, but finnage shd be quite okay

[Jimmy Wu]

ic~

gd luck to you on yr spawn and to yr common test then~!:D


quote:Originally posted by Sebas

i dont even know if got yellows anot. heh, but finnage shd be quite okay

[Jimmy Wu]

ic~

gd luck to you on yr spawn and to yr common test then~!:D


quote:Originally posted by Sebas

i dont even know if got yellows anot. heh, but finnage shd be quite okay

[kennho]

Sebas, think I discuss my spawn before. Threw out 50% red fins light body (I dun call it cambodian as I dun think it's cambodian anyway)... 1st of all, I would think my pair one of it came from a orange spawn which occassionally threw out yellowish fish. As such, crossing with another will likely to fall back on the original strain.

Now got to look at Sam's yellow line and see if there is a chance that I could get some to work on mine line. Seems like not a lot of people working on yellow ct ... real tough for me to find.

[kennho]

Sebas, think I discuss my spawn before. Threw out 50% red fins light body (I dun call it cambodian as I dun think it's cambodian anyway)... 1st of all, I would think my pair one of it came from a orange spawn which occassionally threw out yellowish fish. As such, crossing with another will likely to fall back on the original strain.

Now got to look at Sam's yellow line and see if there is a chance that I could get some to work on mine line. Seems like not a lot of people working on yellow ct ... real tough for me to find.

[Sebas]

Yo kennho,
They look like cams to me, but its okay, everyone has different views right :)

Yellows cts huh, i think jung has a line of yellow CTs, maybe you can talk to him.

PS: so would u like some frozen BW on Sunday?

[Sebas]

Yo kennho,
They look like cams to me, but its okay, everyone has different views right :)

Yellows cts huh, i think jung has a line of yellow CTs, maybe you can talk to him.

PS: so would u like some frozen BW on Sunday?

[Jimmy Wu]

Hi Kenn,

ever tried to use pine outcross to yellow to get better color~?

regards
Jimmy

quote:Originally posted by kennho

Sebas, think I discuss my spawn before. Threw out 50% red fins light body (I dun call it cambodian as I dun think it's cambodian anyway)... 1st of all, I would think my pair one of it came from a orange spawn which occassionally threw out yellowish fish. As such, crossing with another will likely to fall back on the original strain.

Now got to look at Sam's yellow line and see if there is a chance that I could get some to work on mine line. Seems like not a lot of people working on yellow ct ... real tough for me to find.

[Jimmy Wu]

Hi Kenn,

ever tried to use pine outcross to yellow to get better color~?

regards
Jimmy

quote:Originally posted by kennho

Sebas, think I discuss my spawn before. Threw out 50% red fins light body (I dun call it cambodian as I dun think it's cambodian anyway)... 1st of all, I would think my pair one of it came from a orange spawn which occassionally threw out yellowish fish. As such, crossing with another will likely to fall back on the original strain.

Now got to look at Sam's yellow line and see if there is a chance that I could get some to work on mine line. Seems like not a lot of people working on yellow ct ... real tough for me to find.

[kennho]

I hate pineapple which has the black scale edge. Tried but culled all the fish. I am trying to work on a clean yellow line. quite siong.

Sebas, I got hold of someone yellow ct but the blue irids really tough to get rid unless thru a few generation of work. I got a spawn of a thai yellow male and this local female to see what's the result. Got to wait liao. Both near 170deg spread, color of male is pretty good. cross fingers & toes. Seldom see Jung leh. Anyway, if it is not too troublesome for you, 4x8 cubes hikari bw, i take a box first. If you have only the 4x6 type, then I no need liao. ming pai hor ? Oh ya, you have frozen mosquitoes larva or live bloodworms as well ? erh .. shift this worm topic to your farm channel ok ?

Wonder how Peter Choo got his yellow (japs) and Chris' chiffon.

[kennho]

I hate pineapple which has the black scale edge. Tried but culled all the fish. I am trying to work on a clean yellow line. quite siong.

Sebas, I got hold of someone yellow ct but the blue irids really tough to get rid unless thru a few generation of work. I got a spawn of a thai yellow male and this local female to see what's the result. Got to wait liao. Both near 170deg spread, color of male is pretty good. cross fingers & toes. Seldom see Jung leh. Anyway, if it is not too troublesome for you, 4x8 cubes hikari bw, i take a box first. If you have only the 4x6 type, then I no need liao. ming pai hor ? Oh ya, you have frozen mosquitoes larva or live bloodworms as well ? erh .. shift this worm topic to your farm channel ok ?

Wonder how Peter Choo got his yellow (japs) and Chris' chiffon.

[Dr Hsu]

Kenneth,

As far as I know, Peter got his yellows through personal hand-carry by his sister from Japan, and Chris' yellow mainly thrown out from his MG (thus the strong yellow color).

If you need a yellow CT male, let me know - I have one you can use for breeding first as I'm too busy with other spawns at the moment to breed him.

[Dr Hsu]

Kenneth,

As far as I know, Peter got his yellows through personal hand-carry by his sister from Japan, and Chris' yellow mainly thrown out from his MG (thus the strong yellow color).

If you need a yellow CT male, let me know - I have one you can use for breeding first as I'm too busy with other spawns at the moment to breed him.

[Samuel Phan]

Hi Guys,

For those that needs to know the progress of the yellow spawns I have ... this is it.

UDOM Yellow Male X UDOM Yellow Female
- 10 Fries: 5 Yellow with pastel body, 5 Cambodians with lavender body
2 months Size: 2cm
... Jarred
... finnage so so
... waiting for them to fin out.
... secondary splits detected

UDOM Yellow Male X Straits Yellow Female
- &gt;500 Fries: 50% Yellow with pastel body, 50% Cambodians with lavender body
1.5 month Size: 2.5cm
... Unjarred
... finnage so so
... caudal edges seems roundish
... secondary splits detected

Straits Yellow Male X Maran Yellow MG Female
- &gt;200 Fries: 100% Yellow
1 month Size: 2cm
... Unjarred
... finnage seems good
... caudal edges straight and to the end
... secondary splits detected

That's all folks ... will keep you guys updated if I can be lucky enough to get some quality fishes from them.

Sebas: The heavenly pair din spawn yet ... the father seems old leow. Letting him rest a bit till the next spawn. Meanwhile also conditioning the female for the next attempt.

With Best Regards,
Samuel Phan

[Chris Yew]

Kelvin,

Pls post in the correct topic. This is about Breeding! [bt]

quote:Originally posted by Kelvin Tan

buy frozen worms wouldnt they melt by the time you go home?

btw sebas the yellow SD you still want? 2 mth liao le. i bring to road show.

ken i think desmond is working on yellow ct, got from WA. very nice looking yellow, like those that won in nbc competition yellow ct.

[Gusmiao]

Hi Foo Hong
I would like to get a pair of Yellow Plakat.
Do you have any?
Kindly drop me a mail to gusheaven@yahoo.com or sms to HP-98681186

Gus......


quote:Originally posted by Foo Hong

Yellows are my latest craze.

[Foo Hong]

Gusmiao,
For yellow plakat u will have to contact someone living in bukit batok. His name is Samuel Plakat Phan. He will surely contact u after reading this.

I dont breed plakats.

[Samuel Phan]

Saw this thread lah .. people asking for Foo Hong how to intercept the thread ... rite????
Anyway ... Gus ... the yellow plakats that I used to have is all sold out.

If I have any available in the near future ... I will post it here in the buyer/seller resource.

Stay tune ...