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Myron Tay
10th February 2003, 12:38 PM
What stuff do you guys use to condition the water in the breeding tank?
If you use conditioners, do you use the normal recommended dosage or a lower dosage?
kennho
10th February 2003, 12:56 PM
Tap water, anti-chlorine(dosage work on a max of 100ppm chlorine). Then a drop of methlyene blue. Normally do that at night before putting the fish. Next morning dump both fish in and let them start work.
kennho
10th February 2003, 12:56 PM
Tap water, anti-chlorine(dosage work on a max of 100ppm chlorine). Then a drop of methlyene blue. Normally do that at night before putting the fish. Next morning dump both fish in and let them start work.
Foo Hong
10th February 2003, 01:42 PM
Water, plants, leaves, ketapang dose! put fish n hang a 'D N D' sign
Foo Hong
10th February 2003, 01:42 PM
Water, plants, leaves, ketapang dose! put fish n hang a 'D N D' sign
ben fox wong
11th February 2003, 09:52 PM
i also paste up the tank's sides with paper (learnt from Simon). this avoids visual distraction (seeing human face = feeding time = stop courting?) i have even heard before u can put two females with 1 male at the same go, but havent tried it myself. maybe can try with French bettas?
ben fox wong
11th February 2003, 09:52 PM
i also paste up the tank's sides with paper (learnt from Simon). this avoids visual distraction (seeing human face = feeding time = stop courting?) i have even heard before u can put two females with 1 male at the same go, but havent tried it myself. maybe can try with French bettas?
Sebas
12th February 2003, 12:59 AM
1 ketapang leaf, 1 piece of styroform
Sebas
12th February 2003, 12:59 AM
1 ketapang leaf, 1 piece of styroform
Foo Hong
13th February 2003, 02:02 AM
on the serious side, all u need is abt 4 inches of water, lightly ketapan-ed to induce spawning mood. throw in some floating leaves for male to bubble a nest, some marsh or land plants for female to hid, cut off excessive lighting as ben said[but not total darkness] and usually they will spawn in 24 hrs.
errhmmm,,,,dont be like Sam Phan. put the breeding tank at the front door...so many people n cars passing by...no privacy...how to do!:D
Foo Hong
13th February 2003, 02:02 AM
on the serious side, all u need is abt 4 inches of water, lightly ketapan-ed to induce spawning mood. throw in some floating leaves for male to bubble a nest, some marsh or land plants for female to hid, cut off excessive lighting as ben said[but not total darkness] and usually they will spawn in 24 hrs.
errhmmm,,,,dont be like Sam Phan. put the breeding tank at the front door...so many people n cars passing by...no privacy...how to do!:D
Samuel Phan
13th February 2003, 10:05 AM
Hahaha ... kinky sex they like. :)
Samuel Phan
13th February 2003, 10:05 AM
Hahaha ... kinky sex they like. :)
Samuel Phan
13th February 2003, 10:12 AM
Okie ... I will be serious here.
For my case ... as Foo Hong have mentioned ... I have my breeding tanks near the car porch and by the stairs. Thus there are always human movement and probably affected the success rates.
Gotta stick to this method unless I can convert my whole backyard to a LFS like what Foo Hong did to his.
For myself ... I will normally use a styrofoam cup and a piece of ketapang leave in the spawning tank with s few crystals of yellow powder added. Food is still provided during the entire process which is not required. But since my fishes dun normally spawn the next day ... I try not to let them go hungry and also provide the stamina for the male to take care of the eggs if happen that they spawn.
I normally will try to cover the tank partially near the bubble nest so that they pair dun see much of the human movement as mentioned.
So far my success rate is still about 7-8 spawns out of 10 healthy pairings.
Samuel Phan
13th February 2003, 10:12 AM
Okie ... I will be serious here.
For my case ... as Foo Hong have mentioned ... I have my breeding tanks near the car porch and by the stairs. Thus there are always human movement and probably affected the success rates.
Gotta stick to this method unless I can convert my whole backyard to a LFS like what Foo Hong did to his.
For myself ... I will normally use a styrofoam cup and a piece of ketapang leave in the spawning tank with s few crystals of yellow powder added. Food is still provided during the entire process which is not required. But since my fishes dun normally spawn the next day ... I try not to let them go hungry and also provide the stamina for the male to take care of the eggs if happen that they spawn.
I normally will try to cover the tank partially near the bubble nest so that they pair dun see much of the human movement as mentioned.
So far my success rate is still about 7-8 spawns out of 10 healthy pairings.
Chris Yew
13th February 2003, 10:53 AM
So do you guys think that the half styrofoam cup is better or natural floating leaves (with or without roots) are better?
Chris Yew
13th February 2003, 10:53 AM
So do you guys think that the half styrofoam cup is better or natural floating leaves (with or without roots) are better?
Samuel Phan
13th February 2003, 11:38 AM
I think a ketapang leaves that can trap the bubbles is the best ... I mean the fishes likes that best. But that pose a problem if you wanna see if there is any eggs in the nest. The leave blocks out too mych light for easy viewing.
On the other hand ... the styrofoam cup is easier.
Samuel Phan
13th February 2003, 11:38 AM
I think a ketapang leaves that can trap the bubbles is the best ... I mean the fishes likes that best. But that pose a problem if you wanna see if there is any eggs in the nest. The leave blocks out too mych light for easy viewing.
On the other hand ... the styrofoam cup is easier.
Sebas
13th February 2003, 12:51 PM
a small 4x4 size piece of ketapang leaf + a L shaped styroform will act as the nest for my males. The two combines and acts a heavy duty support for the nest.
For my method of seeing whether there are eggs in the nest, i normally observe the behavior of the pair more.
Sebas
13th February 2003, 12:51 PM
a small 4x4 size piece of ketapang leaf + a L shaped styroform will act as the nest for my males. The two combines and acts a heavy duty support for the nest.
For my method of seeing whether there are eggs in the nest, i normally observe the behavior of the pair more.
Samuel Phan
13th February 2003, 01:09 PM
Saw your improvised nest holder once ... nice.
Maybe you can bring it down to the gathering for all to see ...
Samuel Phan
13th February 2003, 01:09 PM
Saw your improvised nest holder once ... nice.
Maybe you can bring it down to the gathering for all to see ...
Dr Hsu
13th February 2003, 11:28 PM
Anyone using bubblewrap as a nest? Seems to be popular amongst some in IBC. Apparently traps bubbles well and you can see the eggs too! Thinking of trying it one day, but for now, natural leaves work well for me.
Dr Hsu
13th February 2003, 11:28 PM
Anyone using bubblewrap as a nest? Seems to be popular amongst some in IBC. Apparently traps bubbles well and you can see the eggs too! Thinking of trying it one day, but for now, natural leaves work well for me.
Kenny Poh
14th February 2003, 02:09 AM
I'm now 2wks into my first spawn after a lapse of more than 2 yrs, and this time round, I did everything different:
1. Use a standard 2 ft tank 80% filled with water as opposed to a 1ft plastic tank.
2. No styrofoam cup or anything to hold the nest together, the male just has to anchor the nest to a corner of the tank divider placed in to show the female to the male.
3. Just 1 day old tapwater without anything else, as opposed to using ketapang leaves.
It still work quite well for me, except that I lost 80% of the eggs due to my own carelessness of using tank divider with holes that allowed most of the eggs to float across and the male was unable to retrieve it.
Luckily 34 normal frys hatched and another 3 belly sliders are still surviving till today, already 2 wks old.
Another thing different is that I used daphnias since the 1st day of free swimming frys and supplement them with bbs only when I've got no time to go to the fish farm to buy daphnias. Must say, that the growth rate is better than feeding 3 times a day with bbs, since now they can eat round the clock.
Today, manage to get them to eat adult brineshrimp liao, all of them more than a cm long and squabbling!
Cheers,
Kenny
Kenny Poh
14th February 2003, 02:09 AM
I'm now 2wks into my first spawn after a lapse of more than 2 yrs, and this time round, I did everything different:
1. Use a standard 2 ft tank 80% filled with water as opposed to a 1ft plastic tank.
2. No styrofoam cup or anything to hold the nest together, the male just has to anchor the nest to a corner of the tank divider placed in to show the female to the male.
3. Just 1 day old tapwater without anything else, as opposed to using ketapang leaves.
It still work quite well for me, except that I lost 80% of the eggs due to my own carelessness of using tank divider with holes that allowed most of the eggs to float across and the male was unable to retrieve it.
Luckily 34 normal frys hatched and another 3 belly sliders are still surviving till today, already 2 wks old.
Another thing different is that I used daphnias since the 1st day of free swimming frys and supplement them with bbs only when I've got no time to go to the fish farm to buy daphnias. Must say, that the growth rate is better than feeding 3 times a day with bbs, since now they can eat round the clock.
Today, manage to get them to eat adult brineshrimp liao, all of them more than a cm long and squabbling!
Cheers,
Kenny
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