Tank Setup for Breeding

[imported_n/a]

Hi all,

As an amateur to breeding, would like to ask some 'stupid' questions:
- how big should the breeding tank be? Heard the ideal volume is about 10 gallons.
- is a filter necessary? If so,which type?
- how often do i need to change water and how much to change?

would appreciate any suggestions.

regards

How Aik

[Foo Hong]

heh....heres the stupid answers.

No need to be too big a tank otherwise, poor male has to do lots of 100m dashes, and unless he is like Micahel Johnson...he will collapse!
2 to 3 gallons of water is sufficient. Wider is better than deeper.

No filter shld be used until teh fries are strong enuf. filtering causes water movement and can disrupt the fertilisation - milt gets swept away!

No changes required in water till fries about 1 week old. If your tank is lightly filtered or has some plants growing[not decaying], that will reduce the amount of water change required although I practice a change once I start with bbs or moina cos they faeces will start to build up.

Ok? I am sure there are more help coming your way <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

[imported_n/a]

Hi Foo Hong,

thanks for your help!!! I'll try breeding once i'm free in Mid May. Nedd to get a female fish from Straits though...

Thanks again.

How Aik

[Foo Hong]

try styrofoam boxes as well. they work very well sometimes

[Samuel Phan]

I use a 2 ft tank partitioned into 2 side ... this will provide more water volume to prevent water condition from fouling and at the same time restricting the swimming area so that the male do not get too tired in the chase.

Same as Foo Hong, I dun use a filter but water change starts pretty soon after the fries starts to feed. In my case ... daphnias.

When they grow bigger ... water change can be as frquent as alternate days at 20% to 30% change. And on weekly basis ... 50% water change.

A little bit of M-blue will also help as a preventive measure for the fries.

With Best Regards,
Samuel Phan

Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)

[Samuel Phan]

Yes ... they do work well at times ... but not always ... Probably glass tank is still a better choice ... provided they are not the bottom tank.

Scrubing of the styrofoam boxes might be a problem ...

With Best Regards,
Samuel Phan

quote:
try styrofoam boxes as well. they work very well sometimes




Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)

[Foo Hong]

no need to scrub teh styro, just get a new one.

[Samuel Phan]

But hard to get leh ... from mkt? Or buy?

quote:
no need to scrub teh styro, just get a new one.




Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)

[Foo Hong]

plenty each day at the vegetable stores. you can pick n choose. altenatively just buy clean ones from fishing shops...$2 or so only.

[Samuel Phan]

Straist once quoted me $7 or $8 each.
Chop-chilly-chop-chilly ... chop!!! chop!!! chop!!!

quote:
plenty each day at the vegetable stores. you can pick n choose. altenatively just buy clean ones from fishing shops...$2 or so only.




Samuel Phan **** Chiat
(Creator Of Sam's Betta Colour Rendezvous)

[Myron Tay]

quote:Originally posted by Wayne

May I know what is in you guys' tank?

I have two java fern tied to drift wood, one sponge filter.
Wayne

I typically have moss and a large sponge filter.

[Wayne]

I guess i must get myself another kind of sponge filter. Myron, does your water level cover your filter? The sponger filter i have is rectangular shape and has two suction cup behind for you to stick it to the aquarium wall. I am thinking of getting thsoe that stand on the bottom of the tank. But I am worry, if the water does not fully cover the filter, what happen? Less effecient?

The filter is like this one right? http://www.jehmco.com/PRODUCTS_/FILTRATION/Hydro-Sponge_Filters/a_HydroSponges0-5A.jpg

[Myron Tay]

Yes, the water level just about covers the filter (as pictured minus the plastic tube). I usually turn the air-pump on one-two days after the fries start free-swimming.

[Wayne]

Myron, do you leave the plastic tube there or remove it? I am thinking that the plstic tube will prevent the bubble from causing movement of the water surface. Am I right?

[Myron Tay]

As mentioned in my previous posting, do not use the plastic tube pictured above.

[Wayne]

Opps, misunderstanding, i though you were saying water level should cover the sponge but not the plastic tube. :) Thanks for the help Myron. :)

[Myron Tay]

quote:Originally posted by Alvin Lim

I have switch from form cup to bubble wrap to hold the nest better. The bubble wrap is doing great. Because it looks like a nest, it encourages the male to start building/adding the nest very quickly.
Spawning can begin earlier, as a bit of bubble can hold alot of eggs under the bubble wrap. The female is also tricked to think that the male has an impressive nest very quickly, previously the male had to slog for 1 day for something decent before spawning.
Also also, when removing the parents from the spawning tank, the nest stay intact very well under the bubble wrap. Cheers! [ber]
Alvin LimAn innovative suggestion by Alvin.

[Scott Ng]

quote:Originally posted by Myron Tay

Yes, the water level just about covers the filter (as pictured minus the plastic tube). I usually turn the air-pump on one-two days after the fries start free-swimming.

u mean u add the air pump once the fries are free swimming??

[Myron Tay]

quote:Originally posted by Alastair

Hilow peeps...

New forumer here... *cheers* [ber]

Just wanna ask.. What are your people's breeding tank set up ah...

For my betta seller horr, he just use a styrofoam tank to breed.. Without all those troublesome temp stuff, filter stuff whatsoever..

That is, I think the old-fashioned way of breeding..
And I think it's quite good!! Cos' bettas are those 'old-fashioned' kind of fishes and do not really need those professional care...

Do you think it's a good idea...
Or you guys have some other ideas...

I'm not rich!! Just barely 13 years old!!
So.. Ya.. Can suggest some ways which are not that expensive and can have a higher chance of successful breeding.. Thanks!!!

Hur hur,
Alastair
quote:Originally posted by Jodee Yap

haha..im 16..good to see that there's someone whose interested and close to my age..well..i breed in 2feet tanks or styrofoam boxes..i dun use filters or anything fancy..just the tank..with a lid..some plants..aged water..some ppl lik to use a styrofoam cup in a corner to protect the bubble nest but i find that difficult to check for eggs..the males may oso prefer to build their nest under a leaf or so..the male sld be put in the tank..to build his nest and the female in another container within his sight..i cut out the middle section of a 1.5l bottle and poke holes in it then put the female inside this 'enclosure' and put inside the tank..its not really how the tank is set up..more of whether the fishes are conditioned well enuf..ya..im not a very experienced breeder though iv breed fishes 3-4 times before with successful spawns..haha..hope this helps..

anyway..anyone noticed that this hobby is mostly a male dominated one?haha..quote:Originally posted by Alastair

Thanks!!!

I've been breeding since sround 8+ years old maybe?

Fell in love with them when my brother 'discovered' this amazingly beautiful fish..
Always get the babies but always trying to do 'new' stuff... Thus getting the breeding unsusccessful..

Now i'm inspired...
Will try again...
Perhaps after my exams...
So.. ya! Thanks!!!
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Ong

hehe..betta is 99% male dominated. even the male bettas dominate :P but my female still bit my male's fins...:( nvm haha

anyway i'm 15..and yah there are more young breeders than you think lol.

anyway here's my breeding setup: i breed in 2ft tank. just use a leaf of windelov's fern for the male to build his nest. i use this cause the leaf is lobed and it's much easier to see the eggs. apart from that i put a few stalks of plants into the breeding tank too.

for the female container..i just use those plastic cages that you can buy from fish shops. i bought it from kelson bettas.

[imported_n/a]

i'm 15 too! haha. erm, my breeding tank set up is a 2 gallon tank. with a styrofoam cup floating. and i put java moss in too.(for the female to hide) for my female container, i used a 1.5L bottle with the base and the top cut off. i placed it in the middle of the tank. quite near the styrofoam cup.

[Myron Tay]

quote:Originally posted by Ah Tan

Hi

First time trying to breed show betta. Tank size is 23cmx15cmx17cm (LxWxH). Is there anything I should improve on? Appreciate your advice. Thanks.

Pics:
http://photobucket.com/albums/d96/Ah_Tan/1%20Breeding%20Pair/?