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dennistancheesim
7th January 2003, 12:45 PM
:)

hi all ....
This idea is brought up by a friend of mine....

his idea was like bringing all the betta hobblist to bring thier bettas to one place and put there to compare..like those bird hobblist who put up thier birds together to compare la etc etc....

he would like to see whether its agreeable to u all or not...

if so, make some suggesstions etc etc to make it better..

:)

Foo Hong
7th January 2003, 12:49 PM
I spoke abt this before when I was still the last VP. Much like Tiong Bahru bird singing spot which was a tourist attraction. However, think the idea was shot down then bcos we were too new. Also concern whether there was siufficient critical mass and participation. May also think of inclduing other types of fishes so attract more people. Its like a sunday fish-get-together thing.

Many people keep nice fishes but kept them at home like mistresses and no chance to show.

Foo Hong
7th January 2003, 12:49 PM
I spoke abt this before when I was still the last VP. Much like Tiong Bahru bird singing spot which was a tourist attraction. However, think the idea was shot down then bcos we were too new. Also concern whether there was siufficient critical mass and participation. May also think of inclduing other types of fishes so attract more people. Its like a sunday fish-get-together thing.

Many people keep nice fishes but kept them at home like mistresses and no chance to show.

dennistancheesim
7th January 2003, 01:03 PM
hahahaha...think so too...keep all at home no one to view them....
but if we can do that ...it will not justs only Promote Bettas...and also can bring in new member for BCS...but what about the authority(poilce..HDB...)....do we need permit from anyone???
as we all know...they do have this kind of gathering(Red Hill market)
but at a diff purpose...if you know what i meaN...that is not healthy
for bettas as well as a hobblist ...
need to come out with more solution....

dennistancheesim
7th January 2003, 01:03 PM
hahahaha...think so too...keep all at home no one to view them....
but if we can do that ...it will not justs only Promote Bettas...and also can bring in new member for BCS...but what about the authority(poilce..HDB...)....do we need permit from anyone???
as we all know...they do have this kind of gathering(Red Hill market)
but at a diff purpose...if you know what i meaN...that is not healthy
for bettas as well as a hobblist ...
need to come out with more solution....

Samuel Phan
7th January 2003, 01:09 PM
Keep the ideas coming ... but dennis ... must support our next gathering okie?

Samuel Phan
7th January 2003, 01:09 PM
Keep the ideas coming ... but dennis ... must support our next gathering okie?

dennistancheesim
7th January 2003, 01:12 PM
Sam...will try to go to all the gathering...
but sometime i'm on shift work...so can't make it lar....
give us you veiw about "Bettas compare"

dennistancheesim
7th January 2003, 01:12 PM
Sam...will try to go to all the gathering...
but sometime i'm on shift work...so can't make it lar....
give us you veiw about "Bettas compare"

kennho
7th January 2003, 01:13 PM
Dennis, refer to this link http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=465

Maybe you can chip in your idea there.

Ya, I know Redhill market got some interesting fish show every weekend, probably weekdays also have. hahaha. Never bring your beautiful HM there hor, to those people, it's not worth a cent. It's a WWF over there. Wet-market Wild Fighter. I lost my black devil (dead) vs a turquoise rojak 1 bucks fighter.

kennho
7th January 2003, 01:13 PM
Dennis, refer to this link http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=465

Maybe you can chip in your idea there.

Ya, I know Redhill market got some interesting fish show every weekend, probably weekdays also have. hahaha. Never bring your beautiful HM there hor, to those people, it's not worth a cent. It's a WWF over there. Wet-market Wild Fighter. I lost my black devil (dead) vs a turquoise rojak 1 bucks fighter.

dennistancheesim
7th January 2003, 01:16 PM
on my way there leow.....GONE>>>>>>>>>

dennistancheesim
7th January 2003, 01:16 PM
on my way there leow.....GONE>>>>>>>>>

Samuel Phan
7th January 2003, 03:13 PM
Regarding the betta compare ... it is a good idea.
But first we have to think whether is it only for members?
If Yes, then BCS have that in the pipeline ... for months where
there isn't any events ... a gathering that will be like the betta compare
will be held.

Is this what you have in mind?

Samuel Phan
7th January 2003, 03:13 PM
Regarding the betta compare ... it is a good idea.
But first we have to think whether is it only for members?
If Yes, then BCS have that in the pipeline ... for months where
there isn't any events ... a gathering that will be like the betta compare
will be held.

Is this what you have in mind?

Sebas
7th January 2003, 04:31 PM
or you can call it Wu Lin Da Hui

Sebas
7th January 2003, 04:31 PM
or you can call it Wu Lin Da Hui

Foo Hong
7th January 2003, 04:35 PM
Shall we a gathering at say...KBCC during the CNY week?

Foo Hong
7th January 2003, 04:35 PM
Shall we a gathering at say...KBCC during the CNY week?

Myron Tay
7th January 2003, 05:24 PM
Wah, if want near CNY better decide quick as we need to book early.

Myron Tay
7th January 2003, 05:24 PM
Wah, if want near CNY better decide quick as we need to book early.

dennistancheesim
7th January 2003, 07:39 PM
why not extend to non-member too???
will see more pple coming in..
maybe can ask them to join the club too...
and if BCS have that in mind...
when shell we make the date on??
CYN should be find with me...
and think most of them should be ok
hope it will be a weekly event...
or once a month....
someone should start the ball rolling......
if BCS make the first move...maybe who knows...
will be like Tiong Bahru bird singing spot which was a tourist attraction.

dennistancheesim
7th January 2003, 07:39 PM
why not extend to non-member too???
will see more pple coming in..
maybe can ask them to join the club too...
and if BCS have that in mind...
when shell we make the date on??
CYN should be find with me...
and think most of them should be ok
hope it will be a weekly event...
or once a month....
someone should start the ball rolling......
if BCS make the first move...maybe who knows...
will be like Tiong Bahru bird singing spot which was a tourist attraction.

Myron Tay
8th January 2003, 09:19 AM
Suggest we get a room at KBCC that we could use every Saturday if we like. Only BCS members has access to the room (have to show CC membership card as proof and have to sign out the key) but members can invite guests.

Myron Tay
8th January 2003, 09:19 AM
Suggest we get a room at KBCC that we could use every Saturday if we like. Only BCS members has access to the room (have to show CC membership card as proof and have to sign out the key) but members can invite guests.

fredtan
8th January 2003, 09:19 AM
Do count be in. However, once a week may be too frequent. The support will decline over time. I think twice a month for a start. This will allow some weekends for individual to do what they want and yet looking forward to meet fellow betta lovers to exchange pointers.

I like to suggestion of opening the gathering to non-members enticing them to join the club.

Hope to see it happening before CNY.

fredtan
8th January 2003, 09:19 AM
Do count be in. However, once a week may be too frequent. The support will decline over time. I think twice a month for a start. This will allow some weekends for individual to do what they want and yet looking forward to meet fellow betta lovers to exchange pointers.

I like to suggestion of opening the gathering to non-members enticing them to join the club.

Hope to see it happening before CNY.

Foo Hong
8th January 2003, 10:31 AM
how abt 8 Feb which a satyrday?

Foo Hong
8th January 2003, 10:31 AM
how abt 8 Feb which a satyrday?

Myron Tay
8th January 2003, 10:59 AM
25 Jan or 8 Feb both sound great. Can I have the comm's permission to approach Mr Ong of KBCC?

Thinking this should not be too difficult as we just need the space and some tables and chairs. Tanks and water would be settled by participants, on a first come first serve basis.

Myron Tay
8th January 2003, 10:59 AM
25 Jan or 8 Feb both sound great. Can I have the comm's permission to approach Mr Ong of KBCC?

Thinking this should not be too difficult as we just need the space and some tables and chairs. Tanks and water would be settled by participants, on a first come first serve basis.

dennistancheesim
8th January 2003, 01:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by fredtan

Do count be in. However, once a week may be too frequent. The support will decline over time. I think twice a month for a start. This will allow some weekends for individual to do what they want and yet looking forward to meet fellow betta lovers to exchange pointers.

I like to suggestion of opening the gathering to non-members enticing them to join the club.

Hope to see it happening before CNY.


hmm...maybe its true...once a week may be too frequent...must see got pple or not too....

dennistancheesim
8th January 2003, 01:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by fredtan

Do count be in. However, once a week may be too frequent. The support will decline over time. I think twice a month for a start. This will allow some weekends for individual to do what they want and yet looking forward to meet fellow betta lovers to exchange pointers.

I like to suggestion of opening the gathering to non-members enticing them to join the club.

Hope to see it happening before CNY.


hmm...maybe its true...once a week may be too frequent...must see got pple or not too....

dennistancheesim
8th January 2003, 01:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by Myron Tay

25 Jan or 8 Feb both sound great. Can I have the comm's permission to approach Mr Ong of KBCC?


wow...you guys so work fast:D:D
good to have com member like you guys:D:D
Keep it up man:):)

dennistancheesim
8th January 2003, 01:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by Myron Tay

25 Jan or 8 Feb both sound great. Can I have the comm's permission to approach Mr Ong of KBCC?


wow...you guys so work fast:D:D
good to have com member like you guys:D:D
Keep it up man:):)

Chris Yew
8th January 2003, 08:47 PM
Hi guys, sorry for not replying early as my harddisk juz died of dropsy.:(

Frankly I'm rather confused over what had been suggested lately though they are good. See this thread as pointed out by Kenneth too;
http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=465

So Dennis, so what you suggested the Betta Compare something similar or same as what's suggested in the other thread? I'm concerned as I've other members telling me is an event where all gathered and sell their fishes to the public. So I'm not too sure, what is what.

Personally I think the idea in the other thread 'so called friendly match by Kenneth' seems to be something to work forward to. As Hsu has said, I think that way will be much more better and members will have much more to gain in terms of knowledge. Of course, at the side line, members may also bring along their bettas to exchange, show or sell to other members.

As to whether it should be open to other members, I don't think so. Otherwise, all members will find that there will be too many events open to non-members. For example, if I'm not a member and I can attend their major event like competition, exhibition and now members' gathering, then what's the purpose of joining as members? I'm worried that we may have more members leaving then joining if we start opening up to many events to non-members.

It's better to confirm after our next comm. meeting which is on the 15 Jan (next week) before I can finalise it. I'll discuss with the comm. and let them ponder over it. Let's take it as nothing firm up yet now.

Chris Yew
8th January 2003, 08:47 PM
Hi guys, sorry for not replying early as my harddisk juz died of dropsy.:(

Frankly I'm rather confused over what had been suggested lately though they are good. See this thread as pointed out by Kenneth too;
http://www.bettaclub.org.sg/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=465

So Dennis, so what you suggested the Betta Compare something similar or same as what's suggested in the other thread? I'm concerned as I've other members telling me is an event where all gathered and sell their fishes to the public. So I'm not too sure, what is what.

Personally I think the idea in the other thread 'so called friendly match by Kenneth' seems to be something to work forward to. As Hsu has said, I think that way will be much more better and members will have much more to gain in terms of knowledge. Of course, at the side line, members may also bring along their bettas to exchange, show or sell to other members.

As to whether it should be open to other members, I don't think so. Otherwise, all members will find that there will be too many events open to non-members. For example, if I'm not a member and I can attend their major event like competition, exhibition and now members' gathering, then what's the purpose of joining as members? I'm worried that we may have more members leaving then joining if we start opening up to many events to non-members.

It's better to confirm after our next comm. meeting which is on the 15 Jan (next week) before I can finalise it. I'll discuss with the comm. and let them ponder over it. Let's take it as nothing firm up yet now.

dennistancheesim
9th January 2003, 10:04 AM
will do .....so have to wait till next week than

dennistancheesim
9th January 2003, 10:04 AM
will do .....so have to wait till next week than

Chris Yew
15th January 2003, 10:24 AM
Hi Kenneth and Dennis or other members,

There will be a Members' Gathering in the month of Feb (next mth). Any suggestion or ideas on how you want the Betta Compare or Friendly Match to be done. Pls give more details on it. Thank you.

Chris Yew
15th January 2003, 10:24 AM
Hi Kenneth and Dennis or other members,

There will be a Members' Gathering in the month of Feb (next mth). Any suggestion or ideas on how you want the Betta Compare or Friendly Match to be done. Pls give more details on it. Thank you.

Myron Tay
15th January 2003, 10:36 AM
Suggest have it free and easy for all members to bring down their fishes to exchange notes. No need for any formal arrangements with the CC, except to get the room and some tables and chairs. Members would bring their own tanks, racks, whatever. Members can also post here what they intend to bring.

Myron Tay
15th January 2003, 10:36 AM
Suggest have it free and easy for all members to bring down their fishes to exchange notes. No need for any formal arrangements with the CC, except to get the room and some tables and chairs. Members would bring their own tanks, racks, whatever. Members can also post here what they intend to bring.

Chris Yew
15th January 2003, 10:57 AM
I'm not too concerned about the c.c. side. Juz what is the friendly match or betta compare about in details. Rememeber Kenneth did said something need to plan carefully but I'm really not too sure. It's more on what the members need to do and what they expect out of it.

Chris Yew
15th January 2003, 10:57 AM
I'm not too concerned about the c.c. side. Juz what is the friendly match or betta compare about in details. Rememeber Kenneth did said something need to plan carefully but I'm really not too sure. It's more on what the members need to do and what they expect out of it.

kennho
15th January 2003, 11:43 AM
Chris, maybe I put in a bit more on my initial thought.

Since it's a start for something new, let the members enjoy a few hours of get-together. Keeping it simple and more of a close door event. You said it, "what they expect out of it".

Dennis Tan menetioned at the begining : "bringing all the betta hobblist to bring thier bettas to one place and put there to compare..like those bird hobblist who put up thier birds together to compare la etc etc...."

Wonder anyone enjoy a good Sunday morning at a bird singing kopi talk with old folks. They don't plan. They just bring their birds out and have a good time with old bird friends and talk bird words.

Just talk. Simply, let the members bring their fish there, and compare. If Foo Hong or you can be an event judge to point out what is wrong with the fish or which part of the fish is good, like giving a mini lecture will definitely bring up the standard. But that will take up a lot of time. The event judge got to selectively bring out a few fishes to point out common faults. Keeping it short.

Or a short round table Q&A session.

As for the comparing event, best to just limit to a small number of fish per member. Put the fishes in ct, dt, st/hm, plakat/wild category. Limit the category to a small group. Putting too many category at 1 go will become too messy. The wild card is in the club hands. You set the rules of the game.

Someone got to be the expert there. The one who can answer the questions or control the event.

For a start, try not to have sale event mix in. Anyone who wish to do so should just cross the road at the Macdonald.

kennho
15th January 2003, 11:43 AM
Chris, maybe I put in a bit more on my initial thought.

Since it's a start for something new, let the members enjoy a few hours of get-together. Keeping it simple and more of a close door event. You said it, "what they expect out of it".

Dennis Tan menetioned at the begining : "bringing all the betta hobblist to bring thier bettas to one place and put there to compare..like those bird hobblist who put up thier birds together to compare la etc etc...."

Wonder anyone enjoy a good Sunday morning at a bird singing kopi talk with old folks. They don't plan. They just bring their birds out and have a good time with old bird friends and talk bird words.

Just talk. Simply, let the members bring their fish there, and compare. If Foo Hong or you can be an event judge to point out what is wrong with the fish or which part of the fish is good, like giving a mini lecture will definitely bring up the standard. But that will take up a lot of time. The event judge got to selectively bring out a few fishes to point out common faults. Keeping it short.

Or a short round table Q&A session.

As for the comparing event, best to just limit to a small number of fish per member. Put the fishes in ct, dt, st/hm, plakat/wild category. Limit the category to a small group. Putting too many category at 1 go will become too messy. The wild card is in the club hands. You set the rules of the game.

Someone got to be the expert there. The one who can answer the questions or control the event.

For a start, try not to have sale event mix in. Anyone who wish to do so should just cross the road at the Macdonald.

dennistancheesim
15th January 2003, 02:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by kennho

Chris, maybe I put in a bit more on my initial thought.

Since it's a start for something new, let the members enjoy a few hours of get-together. Keeping it simple and more of a close door event. You said it, "what they expect out of it".

Dennis Tan menetioned at the begining : "bringing all the betta hobblist to bring thier bettas to one place and put there to compare..like those bird hobblist who put up thier birds together to compare la etc etc...."

Wonder anyone enjoy a good Sunday morning at a bird singing kopi talk with old folks. They don't plan. They just bring their birds out and have a good time with old bird friends and talk bird words.

Just talk. Simply, let the members bring their fish there, and compare. If Foo Hong or you can be an event judge to point out what is wrong with the fish or which part of the fish is good, like giving a mini lecture will definitely bring up the standard. But that will take up a lot of time. The event judge got to selectively bring out a few fishes to point out common faults. Keeping it short.

Or a short round table Q&A session.

As for the comparing event, best to just limit to a small number of fish per member. Put the fishes in ct, dt, st/hm, plakat/wild category. Limit the category to a small group. Putting too many category at 1 go will become too messy. The wild card is in the club hands. You set the rules of the game.

Someone got to be the expert there. The one who can answer the questions or control the event.

For a start, try not to have sale event mix in. Anyone who wish to do so should just cross the road at the Macdonald.



well like Kennho had say....try not to mix lar....and should not become too messy...just bring your best fish down and show off lar...:D:D...that what thoes birds lover do...try to show off thier best one only....to judge or not...its ok with me...but if a close door event than no one will get to see....than how are we go to Promote Bettas??
Why not make it that only member can bring in fish...and non member can come and see see look look...??
and i hope it can be open to more pple....so it will help to Promote Bettas...and soon more will join in the family..:):)

if best can held in suntec city man.......hahahaha...:D:D

hope more member can give more idea....:D:D

dennistancheesim
15th January 2003, 02:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by kennho

Chris, maybe I put in a bit more on my initial thought.

Since it's a start for something new, let the members enjoy a few hours of get-together. Keeping it simple and more of a close door event. You said it, "what they expect out of it".

Dennis Tan menetioned at the begining : "bringing all the betta hobblist to bring thier bettas to one place and put there to compare..like those bird hobblist who put up thier birds together to compare la etc etc...."

Wonder anyone enjoy a good Sunday morning at a bird singing kopi talk with old folks. They don't plan. They just bring their birds out and have a good time with old bird friends and talk bird words.

Just talk. Simply, let the members bring their fish there, and compare. If Foo Hong or you can be an event judge to point out what is wrong with the fish or which part of the fish is good, like giving a mini lecture will definitely bring up the standard. But that will take up a lot of time. The event judge got to selectively bring out a few fishes to point out common faults. Keeping it short.

Or a short round table Q&A session.

As for the comparing event, best to just limit to a small number of fish per member. Put the fishes in ct, dt, st/hm, plakat/wild category. Limit the category to a small group. Putting too many category at 1 go will become too messy. The wild card is in the club hands. You set the rules of the game.

Someone got to be the expert there. The one who can answer the questions or control the event.

For a start, try not to have sale event mix in. Anyone who wish to do so should just cross the road at the Macdonald.



well like Kennho had say....try not to mix lar....and should not become too messy...just bring your best fish down and show off lar...:D:D...that what thoes birds lover do...try to show off thier best one only....to judge or not...its ok with me...but if a close door event than no one will get to see....than how are we go to Promote Bettas??
Why not make it that only member can bring in fish...and non member can come and see see look look...??
and i hope it can be open to more pple....so it will help to Promote Bettas...and soon more will join in the family..:):)

if best can held in suntec city man.......hahahaha...:D:D

hope more member can give more idea....:D:D

dennistancheesim
15th January 2003, 02:18 PM
Can we have a date first??
see need to take leave or not....:D:D
and isit a one day show...?
and the time??

dennistancheesim
15th January 2003, 02:18 PM
Can we have a date first??
see need to take leave or not....:D:D
and isit a one day show...?
and the time??

Samuel Phan
15th January 2003, 04:14 PM
My idea of the gathering ...
In the months when BCS has got no other events to organise ... a gathering at KBCC will be there to take up the slot.

If it is going to be a no frills kinda event ... then we can always book a large room with the basic logistics like chairs and table available.

Members only will attend the event where tips can be exchanged.

Fishes will be brought along for "Show" ... sales is not allowed but not strictly imposed as long as it does not get over-board or if performed after the gathering.

Fishes there for "Show" will occupy different tables designated either at members level (i.e. One member per small section for his fishes) or at category level whereby fishes are grouped according to categories i.e. colors/finnage for comparison.

If time permits ... a small competition whereby senior and experince members can perform a simple judging of the entries and eventually comment on the winners and losers more for the education.

Bottom line is to allow members to mingle and for knowledge transfers.

IMHO ... allowing non-members to the event will only short-change the existing members.

Samuel Phan
15th January 2003, 04:14 PM
My idea of the gathering ...
In the months when BCS has got no other events to organise ... a gathering at KBCC will be there to take up the slot.

If it is going to be a no frills kinda event ... then we can always book a large room with the basic logistics like chairs and table available.

Members only will attend the event where tips can be exchanged.

Fishes will be brought along for "Show" ... sales is not allowed but not strictly imposed as long as it does not get over-board or if performed after the gathering.

Fishes there for "Show" will occupy different tables designated either at members level (i.e. One member per small section for his fishes) or at category level whereby fishes are grouped according to categories i.e. colors/finnage for comparison.

If time permits ... a small competition whereby senior and experince members can perform a simple judging of the entries and eventually comment on the winners and losers more for the education.

Bottom line is to allow members to mingle and for knowledge transfers.

IMHO ... allowing non-members to the event will only short-change the existing members.

Myron Tay
15th January 2003, 04:26 PM
Agree that we should limit it to members only. Otherwise could get quite crowded and would short-change existing members.

However, really suggest that we leave it open (i.e. no structure), because for every structure, there would be someone who would not like it because it does not suit his needs. Just leave it to the members there and then to have freeflow exchange of ideas and opinions.

Myron Tay
15th January 2003, 04:26 PM
Agree that we should limit it to members only. Otherwise could get quite crowded and would short-change existing members.

However, really suggest that we leave it open (i.e. no structure), because for every structure, there would be someone who would not like it because it does not suit his needs. Just leave it to the members there and then to have freeflow exchange of ideas and opinions.

kennho
15th January 2003, 04:31 PM
Sam, catching the idea liao. Keep it as simple as possible.

I think tonight BCS meeting can find some resolutions over this topic. I hope I can go but too busy over another area.

kennho
15th January 2003, 04:31 PM
Sam, catching the idea liao. Keep it as simple as possible.

I think tonight BCS meeting can find some resolutions over this topic. I hope I can go but too busy over another area.

Chris Yew
15th January 2003, 04:48 PM
Yes Chris,

It is the same as the last one ... but that time Dennis and Kenho not at the gathering ... so got to relate what we had the other time.

But of cos ... that time was more like a members-only show-off and sale.

With Best Regards,
Sam

Chris Yew
15th January 2003, 04:48 PM
Yes Chris,

It is the same as the last one ... but that time Dennis and Kenho not at the gathering ... so got to relate what we had the other time.

But of cos ... that time was more like a members-only show-off and sale.

With Best Regards,
Sam

Myron Tay
15th January 2003, 05:05 PM
Yah, but I think we can just have this on a more frequent (fortnightly) basis? As mentioned, we can have a standing arrangement with the cc on a fortnightly basis, any member can go and ask for the key to one of the pre-arranged rooms on a Saturday and have a member's gathering. If you are not comfortable, then there should be at least one comm member on duty.

quote:Originally posted by Chris Yew

Ain't we doing it the same for the last member's gathering at KBCC? Or is there a difference, I'm rather confused. Brain crashed!:D

Myron Tay
15th January 2003, 05:05 PM
Yah, but I think we can just have this on a more frequent (fortnightly) basis? As mentioned, we can have a standing arrangement with the cc on a fortnightly basis, any member can go and ask for the key to one of the pre-arranged rooms on a Saturday and have a member's gathering. If you are not comfortable, then there should be at least one comm member on duty.

quote:Originally posted by Chris Yew

Ain't we doing it the same for the last member's gathering at KBCC? Or is there a difference, I'm rather confused. Brain crashed!:D

dennistancheesim
16th January 2003, 09:33 AM
ok...will do....just let me know the time and date...
Think Myron's ( fortnightly basis)...should go well too.....:):)

dennistancheesim
16th January 2003, 09:33 AM
ok...will do....just let me know the time and date...
Think Myron's ( fortnightly basis)...should go well too.....:):)

Chris Yew
16th January 2003, 10:31 AM
Hi guys,
I think it's good to have such an event but it will not be the same as those weekend birdmen type. The objective of the club is to promote and educate hobbyists about quality show bettas - not juz simply buying them but thru the painful process of spawning, breeding and numerous shortlisting (culling). Most important thing to learn is how to identify a good quality show betta regardless of whether it's a HM or Kingcrown.

So I think the main objective of such an event is still to share and exchange of ideas on how to identify a good quality show betta. Not so much as bringing the fishes there and compare and show without knowing what to compare and what to show. Then the members will not really benefit from such an event in the long run. It can be informal and casual, but the importance of knowledge and infos sharing must be stressed.

As such, I think we will proceed on to have such an event but the frequency will have to depend on the reponse of the members from the first few such events. If the response is good, then we can have it more frequently and if the response is bad, what's the use of having it too frequently.

The committee had a meeting yesterday night and we agreed to have it in April, 1 mth juz before the Aquarama. This will help the members in identifying what's a good fish to put up for the Aquarama show too. From there, we will judge the response from the members and decide on the frequency.

Chris Yew
16th January 2003, 10:31 AM
Hi guys,
I think it's good to have such an event but it will not be the same as those weekend birdmen type. The objective of the club is to promote and educate hobbyists about quality show bettas - not juz simply buying them but thru the painful process of spawning, breeding and numerous shortlisting (culling). Most important thing to learn is how to identify a good quality show betta regardless of whether it's a HM or Kingcrown.

So I think the main objective of such an event is still to share and exchange of ideas on how to identify a good quality show betta. Not so much as bringing the fishes there and compare and show without knowing what to compare and what to show. Then the members will not really benefit from such an event in the long run. It can be informal and casual, but the importance of knowledge and infos sharing must be stressed.

As such, I think we will proceed on to have such an event but the frequency will have to depend on the reponse of the members from the first few such events. If the response is good, then we can have it more frequently and if the response is bad, what's the use of having it too frequently.

The committee had a meeting yesterday night and we agreed to have it in April, 1 mth juz before the Aquarama. This will help the members in identifying what's a good fish to put up for the Aquarama show too. From there, we will judge the response from the members and decide on the frequency.

kennho
16th January 2003, 11:01 AM
Another great milestone.

" That's one small step for BCS, one giant leap for bettahobbyist " .... if ever Neil Armstrong promote the hobby.

kennho
16th January 2003, 11:01 AM
Another great milestone.

" That's one small step for BCS, one giant leap for bettahobbyist " .... if ever Neil Armstrong promote the hobby.

Ronnie Lau
16th January 2003, 03:02 PM
I think we did not know the closing date for Aquarama entry last night.If the closing date is 1st April 03, our betta compare event in April will be too late to serve the purpose of selection guide for it.

Ronnie Lau
16th January 2003, 03:02 PM
I think we did not know the closing date for Aquarama entry last night.If the closing date is 1st April 03, our betta compare event in April will be too late to serve the purpose of selection guide for it.

Chris Yew
16th January 2003, 03:13 PM
In any competition, one onli need to specify the color or types that need to submit. Not that particular fish they need to submit. We are trying to encourage own breed fish for the competition in the long run, so there must be reserved and reserved for the competition selection.

Chris Yew
16th January 2003, 03:13 PM
In any competition, one onli need to specify the color or types that need to submit. Not that particular fish they need to submit. We are trying to encourage own breed fish for the competition in the long run, so there must be reserved and reserved for the competition selection.

Steven Cheng
20th January 2003, 04:17 PM
Hi Dennis and all,

I think I am for the idea that non-members should be able to attend ultimately but not at the beginning. We can start by having it as a members gathering and exchange of ideas etc. Concensus can be reached after a few sessions and maybe discussions in the Forum. After which, non-members can participate and be introduced for something like knowing what BCS is all about and the people behind it.

Personally, I was reluctant to join BCS until at the Road Show when I get to mingle and look at the working people of BCS like Edwin, Chris, Simon, Samuel and many others. I joined because a chance was provided for me to preview what is inside the official clud vs the unofficial ones. Edwin's enthusiasm and beautiful MGs struck me and made me want to join this group of people, thus the club.

Chris Yew
20th January 2003, 04:24 PM
HI Steven,

That's right and introducing non-members into too many BCS events may make members wondering what's the members' benefits. Non-members must be awared that BCS is a club and not juz a message board or forum. And it's also the onli official betta club that will go all the way out to promote this hobby.

:)

quote:Originally posted by Steven Cheng

Hi Dennis and all,

I think I am for the idea that non-members should be able to attend ultimately but not at the beginning. We can start by having it as a members gathering and exchange of ideas etc. Concensus can be reached after a few sessions and maybe discussions in the Forum. After which, non-members can participate and be introduced for something like knowing what BCS is all about and the people behind it.

Personally, I was reluctant to join BCS until at the Road Show when I get to mingle and look at the working people of BCS like Edwin, Chris, Simon, Samuel and many others. I joined because a chance was provided for me to preview what is inside the official clud vs the unofficial ones. Edwin's enthusiasm and beautiful MGs struck me and made me want to join this group of people, thus the club.

Foo Hong
20th January 2003, 05:02 PM
Yeap agree with Chris. At such gatherings, people can bring their fishes, eg...potential breeding pairs for others to comment on where/how their lines could be improved. Currently, I only see people wanting to buy the best fishes and 'immediately' hope to get a spawn with 50% HMs [or doing at most a F1]. What they dont learn is how to breed properly, so that the good line would not be wasted.

kennho
20th January 2003, 10:40 PM
Steve, you are not alone. After months since the start of BCS, I have been reluctant to part with a 60 bucks. Comparing to other clubs that I joined, which cost even more than this, I would say that I still able to learn something here. The 1st pay-off ( I hope BCS committee won't blast me with this ), is the talk by Dr Fred. Even it's a very informal, but it worth every bit of that $60 to join the club.

I have been introduced to betta from those good old days AQRealms and a few of them like JJ, Lengyee ... no club, just talk. I bred some betta for fun, but can never break through from my own line. Worst of all, tonnes of effort gone to waste. Till I find out that more interaction among some of the BCS members and a few good talk to further understand what is really a good betta and how to keep them. How I know HM actually so difficult to breed, I always tot those cheap 1 bucks fan tail can breed to HM one. ;P

Personally, I have been keeping many types of fishes since young. LFS is the next "best knowledge base" during then and those uncles sitting around a few glass tanks at a store in wet market are the best "club members". Till the internet ( during then is BBS ) came along to disseminate tonnes of articles that clouded many hobbyists with unrelevent information. How many fishes died in my hands. To me, the best knowledge came from the people around you who really done it. Showing his piece of work and accumulated with vast knowledge that we could seek and harvest. I going to dig your brain like Hannibal. :)

Then came this idea of "mini" and regular meetings among members. I know I can't be involve regularly, or even I might no longer be a member but I am all out to support this idea. You can be sure I will be there on the April event even I might not have a single nice fish to show. From bottom of my heart, I know, that's the best way to learn.

Sebas
22nd January 2003, 11:03 PM
Steven,kenn,
I agree with you on the BCS part. It has made me think alot, including the past and the future. May not become a good show betta breeder ever in the future, but as long as i am breeding bettas, i will support the events whenever i can.

Samuel Phan
23rd January 2003, 10:05 AM
We are all contributing to the promoting of the hobby ...