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Foo Hong
3rd October 2002, 09:41 AM
It was a mostly enlightening and enriching talk/dialogue session.

We learnt new stuffs re mediaction[their effectiveness n usage], understanding of disease. What i find most rewarding was that attendees learnt things you cant get by reading. Where we already have read certain literature elsewhere, these were confirmed/corrected with Dr Fred.

Hip Hippy Hurray Py Py!;)

kennho
3rd October 2002, 08:04 PM
Samuel, recalled that Dr Chua mentioned that he did tried using some chemicals to breakdown the chlorimines. Forgotten to ask him what did he used. Is there a way to ask him again ?

kennho
3rd October 2002, 08:04 PM
Samuel, recalled that Dr Chua mentioned that he did tried using some chemicals to breakdown the chlorimines. Forgotten to ask him what did he used. Is there a way to ask him again ?

Samuel Phan
4th October 2002, 09:32 AM
I think Dr Fred suggested Charcoal ... the normal ones or the activated ones.

Samuel Phan
4th October 2002, 09:32 AM
I think Dr Fred suggested Charcoal ... the normal ones or the activated ones.

Foo Hong
4th October 2002, 11:22 AM
Maybe its time to designed make yr own charcoal filter!

For a lazy bumb like me, I simply add water conditioner to tap water.:D

Foo Hong
4th October 2002, 11:22 AM
Maybe its time to designed make yr own charcoal filter!

For a lazy bumb like me, I simply add water conditioner to tap water.:D

Samuel Phan
4th October 2002, 11:47 AM
I dun even bother with the water conditioner ... simply bubble the water over-nite with ketapang leaves.

So far the fishes are okie ...

Samuel Phan
4th October 2002, 11:47 AM
I dun even bother with the water conditioner ... simply bubble the water over-nite with ketapang leaves.

So far the fishes are okie ...

kennho
4th October 2002, 09:51 PM
I understand that carbon is an absorption media for quite a number of toxic waste. The problem is that for a large water storage (300L) and usage user like me (1000~1200L per wk), I don't have the luxury of using carbo filtration nor commerical agent. Cost of maintaining is extremely high.

I am mixing my own dechlorinator (sodium thiosulphate) and working on deriving an oxide-sulphite based formula for de-chloramine. Still having problem with a byproduct - hydrogen sulphide which Dr Chua did mentioned.

Carbo based filtration can absorb chloramines only at slow flow rate, at least several 10s of minutes. Furthermore, we won't be able to find out how long these carbon will last when the chloramines in water is still unknown.

Betta are not as sensitive to chloramines as they are labyrinth fish. That's why I have not much problems with that. But other high oxygen intake fishes are extremely sensitive and gill burn has already taken toll on my main collections.

kennho
4th October 2002, 09:51 PM
I understand that carbon is an absorption media for quite a number of toxic waste. The problem is that for a large water storage (300L) and usage user like me (1000~1200L per wk), I don't have the luxury of using carbo filtration nor commerical agent. Cost of maintaining is extremely high.

I am mixing my own dechlorinator (sodium thiosulphate) and working on deriving an oxide-sulphite based formula for de-chloramine. Still having problem with a byproduct - hydrogen sulphide which Dr Chua did mentioned.

Carbo based filtration can absorb chloramines only at slow flow rate, at least several 10s of minutes. Furthermore, we won't be able to find out how long these carbon will last when the chloramines in water is still unknown.

Betta are not as sensitive to chloramines as they are labyrinth fish. That's why I have not much problems with that. But other high oxygen intake fishes are extremely sensitive and gill burn has already taken toll on my main collections.

Tan Wan Teng
8th October 2002, 06:55 PM
It's seemed like Chlorimines is the one of main causes that kill our beloved betta when changing water. I think we should start try using charcoal to condition the tap water.

Tan Wan Teng
8th October 2002, 06:55 PM
It's seemed like Chlorimines is the one of main causes that kill our beloved betta when changing water. I think we should start try using charcoal to condition the tap water.